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October 27, 1997

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The Last Hour: 1John 2:18-19

Today's message was GREAT... oh, if just one lost heart out of all those people on VW's mailing list could hear and take heed...but, truth to tell, my reaction was to weep for those who would read it and never feel an ounce of fear...


The Last Hour: -Dreams

Well I thought I found a normal "Christian" source of good information on the internet but after your last e-mail I now doubt it.

I do believe that anti-Christ's abound and many are false teachers from Christianity but do you really base your doctrine upon dreams?!

You at first seemed level headed but did you hide this type of thinking from your web page on purpose?

I cannot in good conscience continue to allow my name to appear on your mailing list. I don't want my good name to be connected with "dreamers" so please remove me from your lists!

Well...any excuse to not accept Truth, I guess...

Peter had visions.(Acts10) Paul had revelations. (2Cor12) The whole book of The Revelation was based on revelatory visions which John had at Patmos.(Rev1:10) Not to mention O.T. dreams; Joseph, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, etc.

But, no, my dreams were not "revelatory." They only "confirmed" what I was already observing through my spiritual eyes.

As for doctrine, may I suggest you read the piece again. Doctrine came from 1Jn2:18-19, and other relevant passages. ...from SCRIPTURE.

All day, off and on, the Lord has been bringing your dreams to mind...and He led me to Jeremiah 16. The passage just "popped" into my head as I was doing other things, and when I finally had a chance to sit down and read it, I found myself in tears...God's words here have the same "feel" about them as your dreams... He's speaking about Israel, but it could well-apply to the church. There's no mourning for them, no burial, they are as dung to Him... less than nothing... non-existent. His peace has been removed, His lovingkindness and His mercies, they don't even mourn for themselves....they don't even know they've done anything wrong. KJ says the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride are gone....

I know what it's like to try and live my life without God... but to have the presence of the Lord completely removed.. my mind recoils from that thought.. like drawing back one's hand from something hot... I don't even want to get close enough to touch it....

Yes. As they are not aware of what is wrong God says, "..your fathers have forsaken Me..they have walked after other gods and have served them and worshiped them."(vs11) And note carefully, "And you have done worse than your fathers, for behold each one walks according to the imagination of his own evil heart, so that no one listens to Me."(vs12)

This is where the "church" is today. Everyone pretends to follow Scripture, but it is based on individual "feelings about" and interpretation of it, and "preferences" regarding what is (or isn't) God's Word...rather than accepting the firm and sure, "Thus says the Lord."


The Last Hour: -More Desolations

I just want to start off by saying that I enjoy your emails and whole heartedly agree with you on many of the doctrinal issues that you write too. But I was a little distressed by the email you sent out entitled "The Last Hour (136)" In it you made this statement:

"These antichrists will be IN the "church." They will both, come IN TO the church, and will also arise from OUT OF the church. These are wolves. NOT True Believers. But for everything, they will "look like" Christians. (2Cor11:13-15) They are pastors and church leaders. They are "big name" well-know "men-of-god." They draw away disciples "after THEMSELVES."

Eventually, their true colors become more readily apparent. They will be seen accepting Templeton Prizes in harmony with all sorts of humanist religions. "

Though I do agree with the main teaching of the above quote I have a little problem with the last 2 sentences of your quote. I am not sure why you equate the acceptance of the Templeton Prize as the showing of a Christian leaders true colors as a false Christ? It seems to me that you are singling out a particular person by that statement, the most recent Templeton Prize winner Bill Bright. Is there something that you know about Bill Bright that would make him a false Christ? Could you please inlighten me on your reasoning for the above quote? Thanks.

Oh dear! Did Bill Bright accept it, too? Well, if so, that would certain fit, then, wouldn't it. His name can also be found on the ECT document (Evangelicals and Catholics Together) as an "endorser" of it. And in accepting the Templeton prize he joins those who have gone before him in this: Billy Graham, Chuck Colson, etc.

As for Bill Bright, himself...I don't know him. Never even heard him speak. But I know of his organization, Campus Crusade. And, while I have had some good friends in the organization in past years whom I have respected, "lesser entities" working in specific locations; as a whole, Campus Crusade has always had some fundamental problems.

First and formost of which is the "gospel" they used to preach with their "Four Spiritual Laws." First "law" starts out, "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life." The only "plan" God has for the unregenerate is "death"(Rom6:23) and "wrath"(Rom1:18). Yes, He "loved" the world and sent His Son (Jn3:16) as the provision for eternal life. But the sinner must first realize his utter sinfulness, and agree with God's word that "All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned everyone to his own way."(Isa53:6) and the "need" for salvation... Not.. as one of the next laws states something on the order of... we are ever striving to "reach to" God, and so Jesus' cross provides that "bridge." (I'm assuming here that the "4 laws" haven't changed since I last saw them 30 years ago..?)

And Bill Bright heads that all up.

I'm really sorry to hear that Bill Bright has now joined the ranks "officially" in this manner by accepting the Million Dollar prize, and by doing so, "endorsing" those who promote ecumenicity of all world religions, and agreeing with them.. "that he is PART OF THEM and what they strive towards." But, hopefully, from what I have said here, you will realize I was not "picking on him."

Yes. "Distressed" is an appropriate word. As 1John says, "that they might be made manifest, that NONE OF THEM were of us."(vs19)


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