Re: Chicken or the Egg?

TRIVIA QUESTION:
Which came first: the Chicken or the Egg?

A) READER ANSWER:
The chicken. [VW: and then quotes Gen1:24-25, 2:19-20 :VW]

B) READER ANSWER:
The chicken, God created the adults first. ;)

C) READER ANSWER:
The chicken of course! Gen. 1:21 I'm guessing everyone will have the same answer

D) READER ANSWER:
I would have to say that the chicken came first. Then God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: beasts, creeping things and living things of the earth, each according to its kind: thus. (Gen 1:24) We couldn't very well have an egg if there was nothing to lay the egg and incubate it now can we.

E) READER ANSWER:
Decades ago I would have said the egg came first since the egg determines the chicken. The chicken doesn't necessarilly determine the "egg's" DNA since deviations can come into it. This is one reason evolution is said to work. However, now I would say the chicken came first because that is what Genesis 1:25 says. God did not create eggs and such He created every creeping thing on Earth. It is interesting that it is also written that the creations all were "after his kind" which would rule out evolution.

F) READER ANSWER:
The chicken. Just as God created Adam and Eve and they had children. God created the chicken and they had eggs: [VW: and quotes Gen1:19-22 :VW]

G) READER ANSWER:
According to Genesis 1:20-22, there were no eggs created before any animal. To try to say that the egg came first would be to accept evolutionary teaching that the chicken came from a lower form of life until one day an egg hatched and out came a chicken. [VW: and quotes Gen1:20-22 :VW]

The PASSAGE:
Genesis 1:
20  Then God said, Let the waters swarm with swarming living creatures, 
and let flying creatures fly to and fro above the earth across the face 
of the firmament of the heavens.
21  So God created great sea monsters and every living creature that 
moves, that swarmed in the waters according to their kind, and every 
winged flying creature according to its kind. And God saw that it was 
good.
22  And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the 
waters in the seas, and let the flying creatures multiply on the earth.
23  Thus, the evening and the morning: Day Five.

VW ANSWER:
As the 'C' person says: Everyone might have the same answer; and most Christians might even quote these same verses from Genesis ch1; but how many can answer a scientifically/evolutionistically minded person as to 'why' these verses indicate the chicken came first? ...not the egg? Just because vs21 says that God created the "winged" creatures, could not God have created them -via- the egg? Both (chicken and egg) certainly contain the same identical genetic material. Could not God have created eggs, from which the winged creatures hatched? What does the rest of the 'context' of the passage say?

We are exhorted: "..always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you.." (1Pet3:15) Do you know what the passage -says-? ...the "-whole- counsel of God"? (Ac20:27) Does Scripture answer this question scientifically? Or is this merely a 'stupid' question, that the intellectually elite can sorta roll their eyes up into their eyelids about because it is too boring and/or 'unimportant'? as in: What's the big deal, anyway?!

The Christian needs to understand that a person's understanding of this matter is based almost exclusively on whether they believe in God, the Creator; or if they reject God for the atheistic theories/religion of "evolution".

If a person believes the utterly mathematically 'impossible' probabilities of the notion that at some time in the past there was a "big bang" (nobody has yet suggested where the big bang came from), from which all material and energy sprang; and that matter just mysteriously, on its own, mucked around and formed chemicals, those chemicals somehow inexplicably formed complex genetic information, and the right combination of genes and proteins, and the exactly correct living environment presented itself, with atmosphere, nutrients, temperature, etc....that everything all converged into a habitable environment, and the genetic materials and organization for a particular 'species' assembled itself....ON ITS OWN....then, indeed, there -might- be a question as to which came first. Which is easier to stir around in the cosmic soup kettle and pop out? A chicken, or an egg? Would not the probabilities be about equal! "0"

That's kinda like that commercial for (I forget which...IBM, I think?) a brand of network server system. The attributes are listed that it Configures itself, fixes itself, programs itself, maintains itself; it does all these different things automatically, by "itself". So the one stooge asks the other, "Where did it come from?" and the other answers (wide-eyed), "Maybe it even -ORDERED- itself?" Ooooo....mysterious!!!

However, when a person accepts the Biblical account of "Creation", where "in the beginning -God- CREATED" all things (Gen1:1), the answer is simple. It is really a non-question.

On Day Five of creation God created, among other things, "every winged flying creature according to its kind" (Gen1:21)

AND THEN, in vs22 (a verse which only a couple quoted, but which is actually the 'key' to this question) God says, "Be fruitful and multiply...and let the flying creatures multiply on the earth."

Even the most rudimentary understanding of the facts-of-life of birds instructs us that the method by which birds procreate is through the egg. The hen lays the egg, the egg is incubated, and the young hatches out of the egg to produce offspring.

In vs21 God did not create eggs all over the place, which were then hatched. He created the animals, and 'then' instructed those animals to "be fruitful". The egg is the means by which birds fulfill that design.

Thus, do I even -need- to answer the question, that the -chicken- came first? Is it not self-evident from creation.

That is...
-IF- (if) one accepts that -GOD- "created" all things, the way the Scriptures record it for us.


ANOTHER READER OBSERVATION:
Ponder This: Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?

VW COMMENT:
Within the past couple weeks NASA shot off another space probe, designed to send back data before it crashes into a comet. As the news replayed the launch countdown, once "0" had been reached and the rocket was lifting off, the NASA announcer intoned the mission's description, regarding -searching- for the "origins of the universe". I've seen a few documentaries on the two little dune buggies putzing around on Mars. Didn't they also recently land (or crash) a craft on one of Jupiter's moons? They are continually looking for 'water'....the primary supportive substance of "life"

They are blind leaders of the blind: "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!" (Mt23:24) They find what appear to be river beds on the sufface of Mars and get excited, hoping to even be able to find some -miniscule- amount of water/ice that might point to "life". In the past they have even spoken of some isolated remote possibility of water on the moon? They go out their with their probes, looking for their proverbial "needle in a haystack", OUT THERE, sniffing for even tiny isolated 'drops' of water, looking for the origins of life.

IN THE MEAN TIME...
it escapes their notice? They are "WILLFULLY IGNORANT" that "...by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (2Pet3:5) Which planet in the universe is covered 70% by water? Surely, out of that 70% coverage, there might have been what they keep looking for 'out-there'? A 'drop' (or two) of "water" to sustain life???

Man was "placed on" -this- earth. (Job20:4) This earth was set up by God specifically "for the service of man" (Ps104:14) God created the universe, "made the earth and created man on it" (Is45:12) God created all the nations of mankind "to dwell everywhere on the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, SO THAT THEY SHOULD SEEK THE LORD, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and exist," (Ac17:26-28)

Why did God create man on this earth? So that he might "seek the Lord". Man keeps looking "away from earth" because he is looking away from God. He is turning to God the "back...and not the face" (Jer2:27,32:31)